11/28/2007

Things to consider

While looking up ideas for my multimedia drawing project that I STILL haven't made progress on, I found a few interesting things. My idea for the picture is a sort of "get the fuck along" message, involving a Pagan and a Christian hugging or shaking hands or something of that sort. Interesting things indeed.
Evangelicals trying to convert Jews... darn, guess we need to meet the quota before we can see Jesus.
Know where your traditions came from! It just might scare you.
Just noting... great picture to put with that :P Yep, that's what I do on a full moon. Dress like a crazy old lady and dance around a vegetable on fire.
Cernunnos compared to Cenarius. Lookie! =D
Seriously not trying to offend anyone with all this, just... trying to make everyone think. World would be a bit better if people did more of that.

27 comments:

Xzorn said...

Interesting. The whole Jews for Jesus crap gives me indigestion. Loading something with euphamisms doesn't change it.

Wulfie said...

mmhm. yep. what scares me even more, however, is that people are stupid enough to be asking Dr (of evangelical crap) Billy Grahm for MEDICAL advice...

Avenn said...

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Wow. I cannot even tell you how pissed off I am at you right now, Tel. I love you like a sister, but right now... Ugh. I'm sorry. Do I bash your beliefs? Do I say "atheism is a bunch of lies and blah blah blah?" No. Because I respect your beliefs and don't want to offend you by contradicting them. You said you didn't want to offend? Then why even post that?

I'm sorry, but I'm Christian, and if you have a problem with Christians, then I guess you have a problem with me. If you want to talk to me, fine. I'm on AIM, I'll be on WoW. Until then:
God bless you.

Xzorn said...

There's nothing wrong with being Christian. I believe she was simply criticizing the way some of them have been trying to convert people.

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Xzorn said...

Avenn... Isn't it a bit, I dunno... Offensive? To say "god bless you" to someone you know isn't a believer. It has bad implications.

Wulfie said...

i'm not an atheist... i'm a pagan... and i'm just fine with christians so long as they don't shove it in your face. and you don't do that! so i'm definitely not trying to offend you, of all people.

and since you said god bless, i'm just gonna say goddess bless :3 not to be mean, just to be a smartass. cuz... i am a smartass.

Gan. said...

Xzorn. Tele's insulting Christianity. One way or another. Methinks Avenn has his rights. Theres idiots on both sides; Pagans -and- Christians. Some of the origins of both are fucked up. I don't agree with the rome going around and trying to convert all, and I don't agree with the goat and animal sacrificing and fucking every other man in a tribe in a ritual or for honor. Both have things. But me and Avenn both are Christians. Neither of us are saints; I'd shoot myself before I was a saint! No fun in that. But, what Tele -did- say was pretty insulting, how ever you slice it.


*The ambassador of the Ganoesian Empire has given his two cents.*

Wulfie said...

SACRIFICING ANIMALS?! ARE YOU FUCKING INSANE?!

Seriously, gan, if you're gonna say THAT, then you FUCKING OWE ME A PHONE CALL TO EXPLAIN IT. And ritual sex is HARDLY EVER USED. ALRIGHT?!

Xzorn said...

Then again, Tel, of all Christians only a finite number will go crazy in your face for recruitment. Out of every religion there are some extremists. Religion in general leads to extremism which leads to violence and the extreme means by which they try to become closer to their "god", which probably doesn't exist anyway. It's stupid. All religions are theories that are more than likely incorrect because they're made up by people to explain things. If there actually was some kind of supernatural being, it would be completely different than what anyone thought.

oh god it's elfy said...

Mmkay, I was told to come so I came.

I gotta tell you, I'm not pleased with any of you. Not to be a jackass comming out of nowhere and saying stuff like this but man...

Mmkay, I didn't even bother to look at the links because I don't want any bias. You guys know where I stand and some of you know that I'd debate it til the cows come home but I'd never do it at the expense of my friends feelings. But neither would I bitch out on them if they did something that you can easily forgive and forget. It's not that hard.

And before you say it...
Shut up, dance, eat cake, and do what you can to feel happy. I'm out.

Wulfie said...

alright, so should i just not talk about this? is it like porn? should i not look at it or talk about it or buy into it? that seems to be how everything is these days. everything, EVERYTHING is so goddamned sacred to at least SOMEONE, when really what that person should learn to do is toughen the fuck up. sort of like my view on cutting trees down. cut down the ones you actually need to cut down, not the ones for stupid crap like toothpicks and stupid little trashy wooden "sculptures" that are mass produced so some ass can get his money and retire. there's something wrong with everything, with everyone. i'll admit my flaws, as well as the flaws with any religion, including my own.
sorry elfy for asking you to come look at it, i basically just wanted your opinion, since i do believe you give good advice.
also, gan, do you even want that picture that i did work hard on to finish? or should i just burn it with the rest of the good memories i need to forget?

Xzorn said...

I find truth in her words. I think it is a shame when people can't express their thoughts without being toasted for it. If someone says something you disagree with, tell them why there's a problem with it, don't just go "holy shit you offended me don't talk anymore!"

And I like toothpicks Tel. I use them to pick my teeth.

avenn said...

Actually, Xzorn, the right to give an opinion also gives others the right to toast it. Tel gave her opinion, I toasted her for it, she apologized, I apologized, and all is well.

Yay freedom of speech!

Xzorn said...

The thing is Avenn, you can toast her for saying something, but it's a cruel thing to do and you're the one who should be apologizing.

Daris said...

I like pie.

Avenn said...

Xzorn... you're attempting to overthink this. In response to one of your earlier posts, I DID tell Tel why I was offended. And, why would I be the one to apologize for defending my beliefs? Tel would do the same thing if I attacked atheists, and then -I'd- apologize to her. Also, seeing as how I've moved past this, I'd appreciate it if we all just dropped it. K?

Elroid said...

Agnostic

Elroid said...

A lot of stereotyping going around, not going to exactly say who is doing it because they know who they are.

Wulfie said...

ACK for the last time i'm not an atheist! X.X i'm a pagan!

and uh xzorn. me and avenn are cool <3

Xzorn said...

Just because you and Avenn are cool doesn't mean me and Avenn are cool. But we are. But what kind of pagan are you? I don't understand your beliefs.

Daris said...

I said, i like FREAKIN PIE!

Wulfie said...

well, it's not quite like other religions. there's basic beliefs, of course, but it's really more of a do-it-yourself religion. sort of the idea of it growing itself. there are traditional ways of doing things (i.e.: maypole, casting circles) but then there are parts that you are really encouraged to think up on your own (i.e.: words to say during rituals, chants).
aaaaaaaaaaaand local creepy guy just came up and talked to me (in the library right now) sooooo i'm gonna just cut this short for now.

Avenn said...

Which reminds me, Xzorn, where ya been? Harple's been waging war on the Scourge without you. Oh, and guess what? With Tiandren back, Kenny's actually getting better at arpee. Shocking, huh?

Wulfie said...

btw dari zomg what kinda pie?
i luvz coconut cream pie dawg (wanksta-ism)

Daris said...

I love Chocolate pudding pie. Mhm. with nice creamy whip cream. Delicious! n.n

Dagnalis said...

Oh my god I love chocolate pudding pie my mom makes it and I go crazy she even makes a mint pudding pie oh god I want pie your making me want pie this angers me because I want pie and I have to say Happy Holidays everyone I hope you can have fun with the people you love <3

-Dagnalis the Nelf who enjoys pie